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		<title>By: Rob S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a paranoid person, and I typically don&#039;t go running off to the doctor, I am going to admit to having been in the ER and to a Doctor&#039;s office 2 times in the past 24 hours.  I&#039;m going to blame it on all the H1N1 hype.

It all started two Sunday&#039;s ago, when my 3 1/2 year old uncharacteristically crawled up on my chest and passed out.  Yep - she had a fever and (later) some goopy eyes for which we took her to the Doc to get some drops so her eyes wouldn&#039;t seal shut.  Other than the fever occasionally spiking, and having to keep her out of school, she did fine. 

By Thursday night, she&#039;s fever free and I am planning to get my life back in order.  That evening, I get the fever.  To make it worse, my daughter spikes her last fever. From here, she improves, but I have the fever up and down for two days that turns into a visious upper respiratory infection.  Willing to self diagnose, I checked the CDC, which says to stay away from folks for 24 hours after the fever abated.  

Bonus, even thought I am caughing non-stop, I kicked the fever by Saturday night, and I don&#039;t have to burn a PTO (aka vacation) day on Monday to stay home from work.  By 3:30 I was shot and left work to come home and crawl in bed.

Side-note: I owe the H1N1 for my discovery and current addiction to listening to every dirt bag diary as superior alternative to television.

On Tuesday, I was back at work ready to defend my PTO for that next powder day.  This time, by 3pm, I could feel the fever, the shakes, and the weakness kicking in big time.  I barely made it down the street and into my car.  At home, my fever was over 102.  

It was my wife who insisted we go to the ER.  It was 9pm and she didn&#039;t want to go in the middle of the night when it would be difficult to find someone to watch Anne.  Our neighbor came over to watch Anne, and off we went.  


So now, my sage advise:  The ER doc was unimpressed.  I&#039;m probable flu case number 1,XXX for him.  He said &quot;You probably have the H1N1.  In fact, everyone is probably going to get it.  In fact, we&#039;re not testing for H1N1 any more.  Rest, drink 2x the normal fluids, don&#039;t cough or sneeze on your spouse, wash your hands, and don&#039;t go to work stupid.&quot;  He took an x-ray to confirm I didn&#039;t have Pneumonia -- negative.

Why did I go back?  I awoke at 3:30 AM with a painful (7 our of 10) side at the bottom of my right lung.  It wouldn&#039;t go away.  My wife made an appointment, and I lay on the couch listening to more Dirt bag diaries until noon.  

The new Doc was no more impressed than the last one.  Likely I had bruised or irritated the lung lining due to all my coughing -- The Ibuprofin that I had been taking every 6 hrs (interspersed with Tylenol also every 6 hrs) was the best trick.  Otherwise all the other advise was the same...

Bottom Line:  The flu sucks.  The H1N1 sucks.  It will wipe you out for days.  Even longer if you don&#039;t chill like me.  If you can avoid it -- consider yourself lucky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a paranoid person, and I typically don&#8217;t go running off to the doctor, I am going to admit to having been in the ER and to a Doctor&#8217;s office 2 times in the past 24 hours.  I&#8217;m going to blame it on all the H1N1 hype.</p>
<p>It all started two Sunday&#8217;s ago, when my 3 1/2 year old uncharacteristically crawled up on my chest and passed out.  Yep &#8211; she had a fever and (later) some goopy eyes for which we took her to the Doc to get some drops so her eyes wouldn&#8217;t seal shut.  Other than the fever occasionally spiking, and having to keep her out of school, she did fine. </p>
<p>By Thursday night, she&#8217;s fever free and I am planning to get my life back in order.  That evening, I get the fever.  To make it worse, my daughter spikes her last fever. From here, she improves, but I have the fever up and down for two days that turns into a visious upper respiratory infection.  Willing to self diagnose, I checked the CDC, which says to stay away from folks for 24 hours after the fever abated.  </p>
<p>Bonus, even thought I am caughing non-stop, I kicked the fever by Saturday night, and I don&#8217;t have to burn a PTO (aka vacation) day on Monday to stay home from work.  By 3:30 I was shot and left work to come home and crawl in bed.</p>
<p>Side-note: I owe the H1N1 for my discovery and current addiction to listening to every dirt bag diary as superior alternative to television.</p>
<p>On Tuesday, I was back at work ready to defend my PTO for that next powder day.  This time, by 3pm, I could feel the fever, the shakes, and the weakness kicking in big time.  I barely made it down the street and into my car.  At home, my fever was over 102.  </p>
<p>It was my wife who insisted we go to the ER.  It was 9pm and she didn&#8217;t want to go in the middle of the night when it would be difficult to find someone to watch Anne.  Our neighbor came over to watch Anne, and off we went.  </p>
<p>So now, my sage advise:  The ER doc was unimpressed.  I&#8217;m probable flu case number 1,XXX for him.  He said &#8220;You probably have the H1N1.  In fact, everyone is probably going to get it.  In fact, we&#8217;re not testing for H1N1 any more.  Rest, drink 2x the normal fluids, don&#8217;t cough or sneeze on your spouse, wash your hands, and don&#8217;t go to work stupid.&#8221;  He took an x-ray to confirm I didn&#8217;t have Pneumonia &#8212; negative.</p>
<p>Why did I go back?  I awoke at 3:30 AM with a painful (7 our of 10) side at the bottom of my right lung.  It wouldn&#8217;t go away.  My wife made an appointment, and I lay on the couch listening to more Dirt bag diaries until noon.  </p>
<p>The new Doc was no more impressed than the last one.  Likely I had bruised or irritated the lung lining due to all my coughing &#8212; The Ibuprofin that I had been taking every 6 hrs (interspersed with Tylenol also every 6 hrs) was the best trick.  Otherwise all the other advise was the same&#8230;</p>
<p>Bottom Line:  The flu sucks.  The H1N1 sucks.  It will wipe you out for days.  Even longer if you don&#8217;t chill like me.  If you can avoid it &#8212; consider yourself lucky.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bohrer</title>
		<link>http://www.theoutdoorparent.com/?p=177&#038;cpage=1#comment-237</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Bohrer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read my previous response and it&#039;s amazing what a little perspective can do. Here it is almost 6 months later, we have a pandemic, but the flu we were all dreading isn&#039;t as virulent as we had feared. 

As I write this, I&#039;m recovering from my own bout with the H1N1. In fact, our kids&#039; school was cancelled today because so many kids and staff were sick. 6 of 7 of our family has had it. In general, we&#039;ve had a day or so of fever, with a total of about 3-4 days of body aches. As far as flu goes, it&#039;s not bad at all, I can remember being flattened for a week a few years ago.

For me, it&#039;s been interesting to look at this as a &quot;dry run&quot; for a more virulent flu or other pandemic. Contrary to my previous statement, we did not go into self-quarantine when the first cases showed up here. But that&#039;s because experience had proven the H1N1 to be relatively mild. When our first child came down with symptoms, it was only a matter of a couple days before the rest of us had it. Any idea of keeping her downstairs in her room to minimize contact with the rest of the family went out the window. Between school, pre-school, church, work, commuting, and general socializing our families are exposed so thoroughly that unless we went into hiding at the first sign of a contagious disease hitting our shores, it&#039;s almost impossible to avoid the germs. We have sanitizer in every vehicle, by the door to use when we come in, etc. And we encouraged hand-washing. Nevertheless, here I am on the couch in my pajamas.

What would we do differently? Hard to say, but it&#039;s clear that the main reason we didn&#039;t take extraordinary precautions was that the virus isn&#039;t that virulent. But, if we did have an outbreak of something truly dangerous, I would be much more likely to self-quarantine based on our experience this time. We would be much more vigilant about hygiene and avoiding exposure. Because now we&#039;ve had a close-up example of just how fast a virus can spread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read my previous response and it&#8217;s amazing what a little perspective can do. Here it is almost 6 months later, we have a pandemic, but the flu we were all dreading isn&#8217;t as virulent as we had feared. </p>
<p>As I write this, I&#8217;m recovering from my own bout with the H1N1. In fact, our kids&#8217; school was cancelled today because so many kids and staff were sick. 6 of 7 of our family has had it. In general, we&#8217;ve had a day or so of fever, with a total of about 3-4 days of body aches. As far as flu goes, it&#8217;s not bad at all, I can remember being flattened for a week a few years ago.</p>
<p>For me, it&#8217;s been interesting to look at this as a &#8220;dry run&#8221; for a more virulent flu or other pandemic. Contrary to my previous statement, we did not go into self-quarantine when the first cases showed up here. But that&#8217;s because experience had proven the H1N1 to be relatively mild. When our first child came down with symptoms, it was only a matter of a couple days before the rest of us had it. Any idea of keeping her downstairs in her room to minimize contact with the rest of the family went out the window. Between school, pre-school, church, work, commuting, and general socializing our families are exposed so thoroughly that unless we went into hiding at the first sign of a contagious disease hitting our shores, it&#8217;s almost impossible to avoid the germs. We have sanitizer in every vehicle, by the door to use when we come in, etc. And we encouraged hand-washing. Nevertheless, here I am on the couch in my pajamas.</p>
<p>What would we do differently? Hard to say, but it&#8217;s clear that the main reason we didn&#8217;t take extraordinary precautions was that the virus isn&#8217;t that virulent. But, if we did have an outbreak of something truly dangerous, I would be much more likely to self-quarantine based on our experience this time. We would be much more vigilant about hygiene and avoiding exposure. Because now we&#8217;ve had a close-up example of just how fast a virus can spread.</p>
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		<title>By: MelatoninEffects</title>
		<link>http://www.theoutdoorparent.com/?p=177&#038;cpage=1#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>MelatoninEffects</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the use of face masks and boosting your immune system by taking lots of vitamin-C is still an effective way of preventing the spread of the Swine Flu virus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the use of face masks and boosting your immune system by taking lots of vitamin-C is still an effective way of preventing the spread of the Swine Flu virus.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 01:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I responded to the Swine Flu (sorry pork lovers, H1N1 virus) by leaving the &quot;safety&quot; on Cincinnati and attending a cancer nursing conference in San Antonio, TX. Yes, Texas, just a border away from the eye of the storm - Mexico. I think I survived, but I really should wait out the 10-day incubation period. 

We will indeed suffer a pandemic virus of major proportions at some point even perhaps sooner than later. The fact remains that regular old influenza, even this season passed to many more people and likely killed more people than H1N1 has now. 

So grab the Purell and pay attention. Eventually, the boy who cried &quot;wolf&quot; was correct and we know what happened to the people who didn&#039;t listen...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I responded to the Swine Flu (sorry pork lovers, H1N1 virus) by leaving the &#8220;safety&#8221; on Cincinnati and attending a cancer nursing conference in San Antonio, TX. Yes, Texas, just a border away from the eye of the storm &#8211; Mexico. I think I survived, but I really should wait out the 10-day incubation period. </p>
<p>We will indeed suffer a pandemic virus of major proportions at some point even perhaps sooner than later. The fact remains that regular old influenza, even this season passed to many more people and likely killed more people than H1N1 has now. </p>
<p>So grab the Purell and pay attention. Eventually, the boy who cried &#8220;wolf&#8221; was correct and we know what happened to the people who didn&#8217;t listen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: simon geering</title>
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		<dc:creator>simon geering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 12:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well surely a bit of perspective is needed. According to the NHTSA’s National Center for Statistics and Analysis there were ~40,000 persons killed in road accidents in the US in 2006 &amp; 2007. So until we see that many people dying of swind flu you&#039;re better of teching the kids to cross the road :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well surely a bit of perspective is needed. According to the NHTSA’s National Center for Statistics and Analysis there were ~40,000 persons killed in road accidents in the US in 2006 &amp; 2007. So until we see that many people dying of swind flu you&#8217;re better of teching the kids to cross the road <img src='http://www.theoutdoorparent.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 03:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By this point in our lives, a baby waking up with a fever would normally not cause much alarm. But when Grace woke up yesterday morning with a fever, there was a moment of extra worry. It lasted a day and a half, and it was obviously not the flu. 
I heard an epidemiologist talk about working the anthrax cases in 2001. His team had many family members calling them to ask how to protect themselves. They came up with a general response - wear your seatbelt, eat healthy food, get enough exercise. Worry about the things you can control. I ride a bus to work, and who knows what the guy next to me is carrying. He could be contagious with something before he even shows symptoms and I&#039;d never know it. About all you can do is the general hygiene stuff and hope you&#039;re not the first one in your area that&#039;s exposed.
Our kids have asked about the flu, but they don&#039;t seem worried. If the swine flu did show up in our area, we&#039;d stay home from school and work. We&#039;ve got some food stored so we could avoid all those potentially contagious people. We&#039;d play in the backyard. Come to think of it, City of Rocks would probably be pretty safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By this point in our lives, a baby waking up with a fever would normally not cause much alarm. But when Grace woke up yesterday morning with a fever, there was a moment of extra worry. It lasted a day and a half, and it was obviously not the flu.<br />
I heard an epidemiologist talk about working the anthrax cases in 2001. His team had many family members calling them to ask how to protect themselves. They came up with a general response &#8211; wear your seatbelt, eat healthy food, get enough exercise. Worry about the things you can control. I ride a bus to work, and who knows what the guy next to me is carrying. He could be contagious with something before he even shows symptoms and I&#8217;d never know it. About all you can do is the general hygiene stuff and hope you&#8217;re not the first one in your area that&#8217;s exposed.<br />
Our kids have asked about the flu, but they don&#8217;t seem worried. If the swine flu did show up in our area, we&#8217;d stay home from school and work. We&#8217;ve got some food stored so we could avoid all those potentially contagious people. We&#8217;d play in the backyard. Come to think of it, City of Rocks would probably be pretty safe.</p>
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